Its not about right and wrong though, thats the problem. When I stated that above, I didnt mean that one side is right or wrong, but that not letting yourself consider that your own opinion is faulty can be an issue.

In your statement above I think you are categorizing(sp?) a large group of people that cant really be grouped together like that. I am assuming that you mean the hackers that cause problems for their own amusement, but what about the ones that dont cause any harm and do it only to further their own knowledge? Do you think that the general public think that they are shit and need to die as well, or that their acts are cowardly and demeaning?

The real point is that there is no real right or wrong. Everything is based upon opinion and the feelings about that opinion.

lol...WOW, I missed alot since my last post. I totally agree, right and wrong is all a matter of perception. But because its its all opinion, it makes it difficult for anyone with strong beliefs (i.e. politics and religion) to be open minded to the other side. No one wants to think that what they believe in could be wrong.

Exactly, thats why there is so much political debate.

I find it stupid that the public demands perfection from a president. It relates to opinion again. One action performed by a president might be terrible for one group but fantastic for another. Thats why I don't debate politics that much. No sides are pretty much ever right.

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Bravo, that pretty much sums it up. Nothing is ever black and white.

Counselors? Their called his cabinet and you need to go back to school and learn how to use punctuation.

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Not only punctuation, but proper terminology and grammar. Plus, what you said rancid, barely made any sense if any at all. I doubt if your really a credible source on the topic or even know what the hell your talking about. Im 99% sure that you base your opinion on what the media tells you, let them do your thinking for you so you dont have a brain cramp. Im not saying your an idiot if you dont like bush, that would be cynical and ignorant of me. Greasy grandma at least had an intelligent argument. You on the other hand dont seem to have a clue. Bush and his administration didnt fuck up america, the selfish mentality of its people did that. Do your homework, and know what the hell your talking about before concluding that Bush=bad.......please.

Bush is just doing what he thought was right. In hindsight, Bush was wrong to go to Iraq, but what if there was WOMD in Iraq? Don't you think it was right of him to go there and check? If there was WOMD there, how safe would we be?

Think Sept. 11th. I Don't think the terrorists are scared anymore to come to America and bomb/terrorize it. Now, what if they brought WOMD here instead of hijacking a plain and crashing into a building? What if they dropped a WOMD in Washington D.C or NYC? Big or small difference? I think Bush was right to go to Iraq and check for WOMD. He was wrong to start a war.

Like we BOTH stated earlier, its all an opinion. You think he made a mistake, I dont. Like I said earlier, just because we didnt find any WMDs, dosent mean that they arent there. Saddam wasnt a beacon of light or honesty either. That being the case, I think it was necessary to remove him from power, which means war. Admittedly, the war has not gone as planed to say the least, but then agian....what war ever has gone totally as planned? Besides, I would much rather the violence be in Iraq than in America.

fine im only in high school lay off i dont need to know how to write but yes bush=bad

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perhaps to someone as misguided as yourself. yes he has made some mistakes, but hes not the fucking anti-Christ. the media only focuses on how many people have died in Iraq.....giving us all daily statistics. What else do they say about iraq? Nothing good, thats for sure. Ask someone who was over there and youll get the real story. They think we are winning and are makeing alot of progress. hmmmmm....now why would they think that if things are really as bad as our "non-biased media" tells us?

They aren't biased. They are a company that needs customers to watch their product. This relates to a game, which is funner, counter strike with its guns and violance (dont deny it) or daisy picking deluxe 3000 (made that up ). Face it, the general public is much more interested in the bad/"exciting" than the "yay we fixed their water system!" news.

To sum it up, the reason they show mostly bad things is because it appeals to a broader audience.

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Not biased my ass. If there not biased, then how come there was barely any news coverage on wako, where hundreds of unarmed people were murdered for their religious beliefs. Because Clinton admited that he was responsible, yet there was tons of coverage on something as stupid as him fucking in the White house. That was a stunt by the media to draw attention away from the truly despicable stuff that he has done. Because of this stunt, Clinton to most people, seemd like a good president that just liked a piece of ass. Yet Bush is going to go down as one of the worst presidents in history because the media cant shine enough bad light on him and his administration. There are even small signs of disrespect in news reports. Most reporters and news anchors refer to President Bush as "Mr. Bush", yet still refer to Clinton as "President Clinton"....hmmmmm. Dont put too much trust into the media. Blind faith can only lead to ones down fall.

i don'[t even live in the usa but i think him and mister howerd and big F##K heads

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oh yeah, almost forgot....I gotta say Dub'ya ftw. It's a close one though between him and Ford(yes I was alive when he was president, I've seen 7 of 'em) That's as political as I'll get here because if I were to get on the subject of politics then I'll be here all night and I haven't played any CS:S yet today, and CS:S>politics♠